Hi Kathleen

Ok Ive had them at 1pm - 3pm -5pm and 7pm.

Not always on time exactly to the minute but close

And Ive really struggled to get them down me - most of the time - I hate them!

Im off to a silent retreat for a week this Saturday so doubt I'll be able to post from there...but if I can from my phone I will.

cant wait to get off them

many thanks

jude