Re: Need help understanding this
In Response To: Need help understanding this ()

: When I first found this web site in
: 2008 I read an article of
: Kathleen's about learned
: helplessness and feeling safe and
: the connection to addiction. I
: printed it out and re-read it now
: and then, trying to understand it
: all better. I know it's talking
: about me.

: Kathleen says we are born with low
: levels of beta-endorphins. I've
: read often how some of you try to
: cultivate beta-endorphins through
: various activities and
: experiences. When I try to think
: of anything in my life that could
: rival sugar as a BE raiser I can
: only come up with two. I suppose
: as I progress through the program
: and sugar starts to decrease then
: it will be easier to find things
: to take it's place in the BE
: department. Is that how it works?

: I never felt safe growing up and I'm
: an introvert so early on I got
: into the habit of retreating to my
: room. Now I'm living in the same
: house and sleeping in the same
: room as in high school and I still
: have a strong pull to retreat to
: my room, only now it's with sugar.
: I think about it every day.

: I'm not blaming my behavior on living
: in this house with my mother. If I
: was in some other circumstance I
: would still want to retreat and
: binge. But so many memories are
: connected with this house and they
: are all bad.

: Kathleen's article says that
: "You can unconsciously be
: drawn to abusive situations
: because the abuse evokes the
: comfort of beta-endorphins."
: I'm wondering if that's what's
: happening as I live here with my
: mother. I'm recreating that
: feeling of not being safe because
: it's familiar and I get comfort
: from that familiarity in a weird
: way.

: At the end of the article Kathleen
: says "Learned helplessness
: usually means that your first line
: of action is to retreat and
: isolate-the worst things you can
: do". I understand that, I
: know that's what I do. I've spent
: my whole adult life wanting to
: hide. And on the other hand I got
: married, raised two kids, put
: myself through graduate school,
: even went to Europe alone. I
: couldn't have done those things
: without "coming out of my
: room". I often feel like
: there's a war inside my head, two
: equally strong parts of my
: personality pulling me in
: different directions.

: I have felt like therapy is the only
: way out, like Kathleen says, and I
: spent years in therapy. But I also
: understand now that there's the
: bio-chemical part of it.

: I'm talking in circles. I've started
: writing this I don't know how many
: times. It may be that I don't have
: to understand all this, I just
: need to stay with the program and
: it will sort itself out.

: But I'd like your feedback about
: this. I'd like to understand it
: better, to know what others have
: done with the
: beta-endorphin/learned
: helplessness/safety part of this
: sugar sensitive thing. What have
: you done, what has worked, what
: have you learned, how have you
: changed?

: Gigi

: PS I recently read an article on the
: internet "Top Ten Myths About
: Introverts". I can't figure
: out how to put a live link into
: this but if you type in that title
: you'll find it. It has really
: helped me to understand myself
: better.

Hi Gigi,

I suspect you may not like my response to this question. :h11)
You are trying to understand something intellectually that is an experiential process.

Doing the steps heals the BE.

And healing the BE is step 6 and 7.

if you do the program, you will get clear. And then when you are biochemically settled, you deal with stuff like living with your mother. :h3) And It is almost impossible to do that work unless you do.

I think a lot of time ss people get drawn into the *drama* of the life stuff rather than the boring stuff like just doing the steps

Kathleen